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May 8th, 2012, 09:46 PM
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No Country for Old Men
I was really, really late to the party on this one. Never knew about it, hadn't even heard about it, until @trlrtrash13 suggested it to me early last year. I went out on Amazon and immediately bought it.
It's easily one of my top ten favorite all-time movies now. I've watched it probably ten times, and each viewing nets me something subtle I'd missed before. But each viewing also nets me at least one more unanswered question - of which there are many. For those unfamiliar, it's based on the acclaimed novel by Pulitzer Prize winner Cormac McCarthy - I'd never heard of him or the novel either. It's set in early 80s southwest Texas near Marfa, when cattle rustlers have given way to drug runners and small towns have become free-fire zones. The story begins when local welder Llewellyn Moss (played with easy aplomb by Josh Brolin) finds a pickup truck in open country surrounded by a sentry of dead men. A load of heroin is still in the back, and about a mile away Moss finds the money after following a blood trail. When Moss takes the money, he sets off a chain reaction of catastrophic violence that not even the law in the person of aging, disillusioned Sheriff Bell (Tommy Lee Jones in a splendid role for him) can contain. As Moss tries to evade his pursuers - in particular a maniacal, mysterious mastermind named Anton Chigurh who flips coins for human lives (wonderfully played by Javier Bardem) the film simultaneously strips down the American crime drama and broadens its scope to encompass themes as ancient as the Bible and as bloodily contemporary as the morning headlines. One of my still nagging questions is, how many people did Chigurh kill in the film? I have it at about a dozen or so, mainly because I can't tell if he killed Moss's wife, or if he killed the moo-moo wearing motel manager either. He has a tic, a habit of either removing his footwear or checking it after the deed - and when he leaves Moss's mother in law's house, we do see him checking his boots. But in the scenes with Moss's wife there he had no weapon visible, nor did he have one when he left the house. She was the only person offered to call the coin toss, who refused. So, it's open in my mind if he spared her or not. I guess we're supposed to think he killed her with bare hands, and she bled. Another mystery to me is how Chigurh kept re-acquiring his pneumatic cattle knocker ( Anyhow here's the trailer, I give this movie ten stars and highly recommend it if you haven't seen it:
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May 9th, 2012, 04:10 PM
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I love this movie. Did you ever see the new Swift truck in it?
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May 9th, 2012, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by trlrtrash13
I love this movie. Did you ever see the new Swift truck in it?
Ain't seenit. |
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May 9th, 2012, 06:46 PM
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agreed, an fantastic movie...
been a while since I saw it, but, as far as how many folks Chigurh killed, here's what I recall, not necessarily in order: the deputy, the Granada driver, the two guys in the desert, the two guys in the office, the night clerk, Moss's wife, Woody, the three guys in the motel room, the pickup truck driver... I imagine I'm forgetting one or two... Last edited by bayoubill; May 9th, 2012 at 06:48 PM. |
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May 9th, 2012, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bayoubill
agreed, an fantastic movie...
been a while since I saw it, but, as far as how many folks Chigurh killed, here's what I recall, not necessarily in order: the deputy, the Granada driver, the two guys in the desert, the two guys in the office, the night clerk, Moss's wife, Woody, the three guys in the motel room, the pickup truck driver... I imagine I'm forgetting one or two... He'd asked, "are you gonna shoot me" and Sugar was like, "That depends. Do you see me?" Would a "no" answer have saved him? They leave us guessing there. In the original novel, yeah he kills Moss's wife. But in the movie they just sort of leave it to us. |
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May 9th, 2012, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Midnight Marauder
Yeah you're saying that in one scene, a 2007? Volvo tractor is visible?
Ain't seenit. |
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May 10th, 2012, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by trlrtrash13
I love this movie. Did you ever see the new Swift truck in it?
at the gas station, Chigurh buys a candy bar (Snickers, I think) and, after eating it, lays the crumpled wrapper on the counter... the crumpled wrapper then "uncrinkles" in a way that indicates it's the plastic Mylar-like material that is used for present-day candy bar wrappers... I'm pretty sure that, back in the early 80's, they were still using paper for candy bar wrappers... Last edited by bayoubill; May 10th, 2012 at 11:58 AM. |
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May 10th, 2012, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bayoubill
another "glitch" that I noticed...
at the gas station, Chigurh buys a candy bar (Snickers, I think) and, after eating it, lays the crumpled wrapper on the counter... the crumpled wrapper then "uncrinkles" in a way that indicates it's the plastic Mylar-like material that is used for present-day candy bar wrappers... I'm pretty sure that, back in the early 80's, they were still using paper for candy bar wrappers... |
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May 10th, 2012, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bayoubill
another "glitch" that I noticed...
at the gas station, Chigurh buys a candy bar (Snickers, I think) and, after eating it, lays the crumpled wrapper on the counter... the crumpled wrapper then "uncrinkles" in a way that indicates it's the plastic Mylar-like material that is used for present-day candy bar wrappers... I'm pretty sure that, back in the early 80's, they were still using paper for candy bar wrappers... the crumpled wrapper is set on the counter at 2:39... my mistake in recalling that it was the wrapper for a candy bar... it was apparently a packet of nuts or some other piece-wise snack... (in my defense, it's been a coupla years since I saw the movie...) anyhow, like I said, what stuck in my mind was the way the discarded wrapper "uncrinkled" like Mylar (which, back in the early 80's, wasn't yet used for snack packaging...) I'd say the wrapper shown at 2:39 is definitely Mylar-like (in both appearance and behavior), and thus foreign to the early 80's... other stuff I noticed in rewatching the scene: the wrapper reappears at 2:57, and again at 3:57... in those shots, the wrapper is in an entirely different position from the first shot... and, indeed, looks like it might even be an entirely different wrapper... in the second and third shots of the wrapper, we can see what appears to be a bar code and a "nutritional information" tombstone, neither of which would have been on a snack food wrapper back then... no matter... this is one of the great movie scenes of all time... Last edited by bayoubill; May 10th, 2012 at 02:14 PM. |
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May 10th, 2012, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JudgeMental
plus, he never pays for the candy OR the gas...
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