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Old August 10th, 2011, 01:51 PM
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So Christians denounce the Old Testament? We can just toss out the ten commandments, and all of the other crazy stuff in the OT because none of it has any application in the Christian faith?
I'm a pagan christian...so...for me...yeah.
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The original Bible was passed down by word of mouth, then at some point written down in sanskrit. Language at that time, as some languages are still today, context driven. To claim any part of the current bible is a totally accurate history or teaching would be a questionable conclusion. Western cultures are rather pragmatic when it comes to faith compared to some others.
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How is that unique? Look at the above quoted passage from the Bible? How is the intent of that passage not exclusion of all other religions by force? If someone tells you they worship another god, you should kill them.

The Bible in Koran share in many philosophies, including the inferiority of women and the sins of homosexuality. In the Bible, one finds a strictly structured law much like in the Koran. It includes God's rule on everything from slavery to what to do with the chaffs of wheat that fall when you carry them in. The Old Testament is full of wars of God against other Religions, and commandments to kill those who don't obey. There is even detailed instructions on how to kill your own kid if he is rebellious.



Again, mind you, I am not claiming that modern Jews or Christians follow this, but it is in the religion. And the entire religion is built around the exclusion of all others by the force of a wrathful and vengeful God who will burn your immortal soul for all eternity if you don't worship him.
Which is why I don't claim to be a CHRISTian. Cuz most aren't.
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I am just spiritual. I think God is GOD. I claim any religion, and I don't certainly think the bible has all the answers, or that it's even accurate. I take my spirituality from all forms of religion, assuming all gods of man's image are the same dude ~ interpreted in different ways by different cultures.

I dont want to argue about the higher powers of the universe, I just believe what I believe.
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I am just spiritual. I think God is GOD. I claim any religion, and I don't certainly think the bible has all the answers, or that it's even accurate. I take my spirituality from all forms of religion, assuming all gods of man's image are the same dude ~ interpreted in different ways by different cultures.

I dont want to argue about the higher powers of the universe, I just believe what I believe.
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Well, it had been yet another bad day in the office, and once again it was the fault of that new girl, Mary Ann. She is one of those Wiccans, a so called witch. How can anyone in their right mind make this claim, knowing that it goes against God and all of the teachings of the Bible?

She doesn't even have the common decency to keep her satanic symbol, her pentagram necklace hidden from the view of the decent, God fearing people in the office. She has some nerve. I find that I cannot hate her for this though, for I know that she has been deceived. Satan works his evil in ways that she cannot see. I've seen that so called Wiccan Rede that she has tacked to the wall above her computer. On the surface, it looks like a decent loving belief, but all one must do is look, look closely and see that by practicing this way, and not embracing Jesus Christ as savior, she is on the pathway to hell.

As I've said, it was a bad day in the office. Three times in the past few weeks I have been called in to see my supervisor, and he has told me that I am not allowed to preach to Mary Ann the word of God, to show her the error of her ways. Today, my supervisor told me that if I continue to "harass" Mary Ann, he will be forced to terminate me. How can he say this? He himself is a God fearing man. And, how can he be so tolerant of the evil that he sees insinuating itself into our workplace?

As I lay down to sleep last night, I asked the Lord for guidance. "God, grant me a true vision of you, so that I may better lead the faithless onto the righteous path." "Oh, a true vision of Me is it? Are you sure that you're ready, truly ready to see, my son?"

I sat bolt upright in bed, and there, at the foot of my bed, white of hair and beard, in a long, flowing white robe, stood the Lord my God. I made to leap from the bed and fall to my knees in front of Him, but he stopped me with a gesture. "Kneel not before me at this time my son. Instead, rise and walk with Me, so that you may get a glimpse of what I truly am, as you asked of me in your prayer."

He took my hand, and as I looked, my bedroom was no longer there, but a pathway thru the woods. We started to walk, and I was too awestruck for words. We took the path to the left, and we were then inside St. Catherine's Church, in the middle of a service. While still standing beside me, God seemed to expand and fill the whole of the church. I could see smiles of contentment forming on some of the parishioners’ faces. I felt blessed. God smiled upon me.

"The Catholics hold such pretty masses, don't they? I like to stop here in this church, because not only do they speak the words, but they live the life, thru teaching, helping the sick and poor, not only with handouts, but helping them learn to help themselves. Now let us walk on."

And we were back on the pathway. We traveled a bit further along, and then were in the parlor of a funeral home. A young woman was kneeling before the casket, resting her head on it and crying. I could see by the similarity, that this dead man must be her father. God knelt bedside her, and drew His arms about her. "Miss him, that is all right, but weep not for him, for now he is with Me." She wiped her eyes, and stood with a sad smile upon her face, and said "Good-Bye Daddy. I'll miss you." and turned and left the room.

And we were back on the pathway. We walked a little ways, and we were in front of a large lodge of some kind. I could hear music and laughter spilling out of the window. I turned to look at God, and was shocked to see, not the flowing white robe, but Him wearing leather and animal furs, his hair and beard now the color of wheat, and a sword strapped across His back. He strode forth, and I saw him approach a figure I had not seen before. As I looked close, I was shocked to see that it was the same face that I had just seen dead, but looking young and strong, and dressed in ancient looking garb, an ax strapped to his waist. God strode up to him and grabbed him in a great bear hug. "Welcome my son. We've been waiting for you. Now, go inside and raise a cup or two, and meet with your brother." And, with a hearty slap on the back, he sent the man inside. And then we were back on the pathway.

We walked a bit further, and then we were in a mosque. At least I believed so, as I had never been in one before, but had seen pictures of them. The group of worshippers was not large, but I could see their rapt faces as they listened to the mullah speak. He was speaking to them of purity, both of the mind and the body, bringing them closer to Allah. And as he spoke, God, dressed now in the robes of the desert, walked among them and briefly laid his hands upon each set of shoulders. And, from their faces, I could see that these men knew that the words of the mullah were true, and that their spirits felt touched by God. And then we were back on the pathway.

After we had walked a bit, we found ourselves in an African village. People with skin as black as night, the women with their breasts shamefully bared, were dancing in a circle, to the rhythm of the drums being played by a group of men. Somehow though, I was not offended by the bared breasts, and the music seemed to seep into my soul. God was then a mighty lion, and He let forth a mighty roar. The villagers did not seem to hear, but the drums increased their pounding, and the dancers danced with a frenzy, and then we were back on the pathway.

We walked a bit more, and were on the top of a cliff. There sat, painted and covered with feathers, an old Navajo man. As I watched, he seemed to change into the form of an eagle and take flight, and we were flying with him, soaring high into the air, seeing the vista spread out below us. And God, in the form of an eagle Himself, seemed to guide this other eagle thru the air, over mountains and thru valleys, until he came upon a group of men. As I watched, the old Navajo man was no longer an eagle, but a young boy instead, and he sat at the feet of these men, to listen to the words of his elders. And then we were back on the pathway.

We traveled a bit, and then we were in a forest clearing. I knew this place. It was known as a place of devil worship and evil. In the center of the clearing roared a great bonfire, and tiki torches outlined a circle of sorts. Inside this circle, in a circle themselves, stood 7 men and 6 women, dressed in robes of varying colors, their arms raised to the moon. Was that one woman Mary Ann? I really couldn't be sure. And God walked among them in the circle, touching each one. He seemed not to be an older man now, but as he made each of three turns around the circle, he was first a young girl, bouncing with energy, then a woman of middle years, with a tender smile for all Her children, and finally, an old woman, body bent, but holding Her head up with pride. And a woman stepped forward, and yes, it was Mary Ann, and lifted her head to the sky. "Great Goddess, Mother of us all, thank you for joining us tonight. Stay if You will, go if You must. Know in our hearts You will always be welcome. Blessed be!!"

And we were back on the pathway. As we walked along, ahead in the distance I saw the most beautiful man. Yes, beautiful, though I would never normally think of a man this way. With blonde hair, and a golden robe, he seemed to radiate sunshine. God and this golden man nodded to each other as they passed, sharing a smile together. "My Lord" I asked, "was that an angel?" "Well, yes, he is known as that to some. He is also known to some as a god himself. That was Lucifer."

And His words caused me to stumble. I couldn't believe that we had just passed the ultimate evil. God looked at me, and He knew my mind. And he chuckled a bit. "Think about it logically My son. The Lucifer that you know is a fallen angel, cast out of heaven for challenging Me. If I am the all powerful being, above all others, how could he do this? How could I allow it?" "But, the Bible..." I stammered. "The Bible is a wonderful book, as are the Koran and the Torah and many others, but they are just books, written by the hand of man, not written by Me. And, it's a bit confusing as well if truth be known, but that's not up to Me to fix. These books are wonderful, but only as guidance, for each man and woman must think for themselves." And, I believed He was right in this.

"Now, come forth, we must journey a little more before you go back." And He took my hand once again. As we followed the pathway, we soared thru the stars, listening to the music of the heavens, we became a little flower and a mighty oak, we became a babbling brook, and a mighty ocean. We flitted from flower to flower as a little honey bee, and ran across the plains as a mighty stallion. And, all too soon, the pathway returned us to my home. God held my hand a moment longer, and smiled into my face, "My son, you prayed tonight for a true vision of Me. For vision, you must only open your eyes and see what there is to see. Good night to you."

And then He was gone, and I was back in my bed. A dream I thought, only a dream, that couldn't have been real. At that time, a bolt of lightning lit up my room thru the window, and thunder crashed thru the sky, and I thought I heard, from seemingly far away, "Remember, the Lord works in mysterious ways My son."

This morning as I entered the office, I went to the machine for a cup of coffee, and standing there, I spied Mary Ann. As I approached her, I could see her barely cringe, and I could see in her face that she was expecting yet another onslaught from me and my book. She seemed to cast her eyes about for a way to escape, but there was none. I walked up to her and smiled. " I think I owe you a bit of an apology" I said. "I've been a bit narrow minded of late, and I really had no right to subject you to what I did. It's not up to me to say how you find your path to your spirit, and I was wrong to think that was so." Mary Ann just stood there, not knowing what to say. "So, I just wanted to say that I'm sorry, and I hope you will forgive my trespass. God bless you Mary Ann, and...uh...Blessed Be?"
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How is that unique? Look at the above quoted passage from the Bible? How is the intent of that passage not exclusion of all other religions by force? If someone tells you they worship another god, you should kill them.

The Bible in Koran share in many philosophies, including the inferiority of women and the sins of homosexuality. In the Bible, one finds a strictly structured law much like in the Koran. It includes God's rule on everything from slavery to what to do with the chaffs of wheat that fall when you carry them in. The Old Testament is full of wars of God against other Religions, and commandments to kill those who don't obey. There is even detailed instructions on how to kill your own kid if he is rebellious.

Again, mind you, I am not claiming that modern Jews or Christians follow this, but it is in the religion. And the entire religion is built around the exclusion of all others by the force of a wrathful and vengeful God who will burn your immortal soul for all eternity if you don't worship him.
You look at one piece and proclaim understanding. Nothing is ever that simple. Most cultures evolve. Some fast, some slow and sum not at all. The time period of a vengeful God has long since been replaced by a greater understanding of what we do and don't know. A little humility developed over generations of stupidity can go a long way.

The Bible, the Torah and the Koran are all derived from the same source so of course they will share many of the same concepts. The western cultures have developed a broader view of our religious history. Muslims still live in the old testament. They took the old testament and used it as a bases of control and power. You can't assume knowledge just comparing a few lines from different books. A history of actions and practices tell you more about any group or philosophy then a few paragraphs written down thousands of years ago.
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I am just spiritual. I think God is GOD. I claim any religion, and I don't certainly think the bible has all the answers, or that it's even accurate. I take my spirituality from all forms of religion, assuming all gods of man's image are the same dude ~ interpreted in different ways by different cultures.

I dont want to argue about the higher powers of the universe, I just believe what I believe.
God should never be confused with religion for they are not the same. Religion can be evil while God cannot.
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