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Are you guys really comparing Ronald Reagan to Donald Trump?
No. If you read intelligently you'll understand that I at least, was comparing the criticism and reaction to Ronny, with the criticism and reaction to Trump. It's almost the exact same script, including how Ronny was a Democrat before....
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Tis a long way between now and November. Much can happen. Until we start getting strong polling data by state I won't concede anything. Although I do put Hillary at the advantage at the moment. For the moment.
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No. If you read intelligently you'll understand that I at least, was comparing the criticism and reaction to Ronny, with the criticism and reaction to Trump. It's almost the exact same script, including how Ronny was a Democrat before....
Difference being there was 20 years of Regan proving he wasn't a democrat anymore where we have months of Trump proving he is just as liberal and dishonest as always.
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Difference being there was 20 years of Regan proving he wasn't a democrat
Donald Regan, the treasury Secretary in the 80s, was once a democrat?

Ronald REAGAN may have had conservative ideals, but his results were far from conservative. Huge growth in the power and scope of government, the two largest tax increases in the history of the country, massive new regulation.... He was the Liberals' dream President as it turned out. He talked the talk but didn't walk the walk.
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Which is all aside from the point being made that anyone running against a Democrat is demonized and portrayed as the incarnation of evil for the election. Everyone. Including some who went on to win.
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Donald Regan, the treasury Secretary in the 80s, was once a democrat?

Ronald REAGAN may have had conservative ideals, but his results were far from conservative. Huge growth in the power and scope of government, the two largest tax increases in the history of the country, massive new regulation.... He was the Liberals' dream President as it turned out. He talked the talk but didn't walk the walk.
And let's not forget the "Reagan amnesty", which, aside from being catastrophic in and by itself, has provided two generations of cuckservatives with rhetorical cover for the Mexicanization of the US...

Reagan won the cold war without having it go hot, an accomplishment that will forever outweigh all his shortcomings. It was mostly his doing too, not some sort of institutional wisdom he got the benefit of.

But the self-proclaimed conservatives who are canonizing him now are simply showcasing their total historical ignorance.
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And let's not forget the "Reagan amnesty", which, aside from being catastrophic in and by itself, has provided two generations of cuckservatives with rhetorical cover for the Mexicanization of the US...

Reagan won the cold war without having it go hot, an accomplishment that will forever outweigh all his shortcomings. It was mostly his doing too, not some sort of institutional wisdom he got the benefit of.

But the self-proclaimed conservatives who are canonizing him now are simply showcasing their total historical ignorance.
Agreed on all points.
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Donald Regan, the treasury Secretary in the 80s, was once a democrat?

Ronald REAGAN may have had conservative ideals, but his results were far from conservative. Huge growth in the power and scope of government, the two largest tax increases in the history of the country, massive new regulation.... He was the Liberals' dream President as it turned out. He talked the talk but didn't walk the walk.
Huge growth compared to what? The last 4 president or the last 6 before him? Let us not forget he was the president with a democrat ran congress. He was not perfect but a bunion on his foot would make a better president then ether Trump or Clinton.
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