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That said... some fakes are just a tad more obvious than others. This here Steve is a liberal first and foremost and the reason he turned to militant atheist proselyting is that his comparative advantages there are better than in say, feminism och vibrancy-über-alles theory.
He didn't really "turn" to anything since he was raised secular, and was always secular. But you're right, in order to be the extremist leftist he is, you almost are required to carry that militant "atheist" calling card.

But he is not a Atheist and in fact HAS described himself in the past as a Anti-theist instead.
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An agnostic is an atheist with commitment issues. I'm a realist. I know that nobody really gives a damn what my thoughts on god are. You won't be wowed at my intellect for rejecting him, or touched by my faith in accepting him. Is it within the realm of possibility that there is a god? I suppose. I'm an atheist because I believe it to be unlikely, so I operate under the assumption that there is none. If I had the overly inflated ego to think you were waiting with baited breath, or if I lacked the courage to commit to one side or the other, I would be an agnostic.

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He didn't really "turn" to anything since he was raised secular, and was always secular. But you're right, in order to be the extremist leftist he is, you almost are required to carry that militant "atheist" calling card.

But he is not a Atheist and in fact HAS described himself in the past as a Anti-theist instead.
Atheism is his dining ticket. Nothing more and nothing less than that for him.
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Atheism is his dining ticket. Nothing more and nothing less than that for him.
That's.... Kinda what I'm saying. He's not a Atheist, he is actually a true believer who is mad at "god" for letting children suffer, and allowing evil in the world. But he is perfectly okay with Allah and the evil it represents, because, picked on Muslims ya know?

This is what makes him simply a bigot, hiding behind the comfortable "atheist" label.
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So we're in ragin' agreement then. This is small fry.
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Agnosticism is the only true way of thinking if one takes belief and faith seriously.
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Agnosticism is the only true way of thinking if one takes belief and faith seriously.
That it is far, far more likely we humankind merely conjured all the deities, gods, devils, demons, angels and associated characters and events than is likely they actually exist as fabled, is lost on many and seems incapable of computing for some.

"Belief" and "faith" really are relative and are the opposites of rational thought.
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Yeah, yeah. Otoh, absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. It's hard to infer anything at all beyond "there's no evidence of such" if you stick to that rationality.

Not that it matters all that much. The real differences between the implications of agnosticism and atheism are miniscule, unless you belong to the preacher host.
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Yeah, yeah. Otoh, absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. It's hard to infer anything at all beyond "there's no evidence of such" if you stick to that rationality.
It's not "absence of evidence." It's vast evidence that we create fiction and always have. Occam's razor, baby.
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Not that it matters all that much. The real differences between the implications of agnosticism and atheism are miniscule, unless you belong to the preacher host.
Implications. Heh. It all depends on the methodology right?
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