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Old February 9th, 2019, 03:27 PM
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Starr's "investigation" was a ridiculous witch hunt.
Apparently you don't know much about it.

Starr was appointed by a 3 judge panel to investigate Bill Clinton's role (if any) in the death of Vince Foster and his Whitewater involvement. The 3 judge panel then expanded Starr's role after Clinton perjured himself during his deposition in the unrelated Paula Jones sexual harassment lawsuit. He lied under oath, as the DNA on the blue dress proved. That's what he was impeached for by the House, perjury and obstruction.

You come with the spin that was successfully put out by the media, that Starr was "investigating sex" and he was not and never was. He was investigating fraud (Whitewater) possible murder (The Foster incident) and then perjury and obstruction of justice.

The 3 judge panel was required by a federal law, the Ethics in Government Act (28 U.S.C. § 593(b) and it was this 3 judge panel, not Starr, who administered the investigative topics.

It wasn't a "witch hunt" as Hitlery kept describing it, and neither is the current special prosecutor investigation - which by the way as I listed earlier, has already netted real criminals and exacted real punishment for their crimes. With no doubt, more to come.

If you don't understand that perjury is a felony, no matter the subject material or the venue, then you don't know much about US law. In any official court action, when you swear the oath to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth you are criminally liable if you break that oath. And Clinton did, that is why he was subsequently disbarred by the Arkansas State Bar association and his law license suspended.

The only thing "ridiculous" about the whole affair was when the democrat-controlled Senate voted to acquit Clinton for impeachment, despite absolute proof including his own admissions and apologies, of perjury and obstruction by a sitting President.

If you want, you can keep parroting James Carville's spin on it. Facts be damned.
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Witness tampering is obstruction. Payoffs and hush money, are obstruction.
No proof, NDA's are legal and therefore no obstruction. You can spin it hard like a Lefty as you want to but I'm not buying it.

It is not like someone actually committed perjury and had to surrender their law license because of any of this.
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It is not like someone actually committed perjury
No lying under oath so far, but you do have lying to the FBI and prosecutors, which are also, federal offenses.
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NDA's are legal and therefore no obstruction.
It's obstruction AND conspiracy, to pay someone to lie to the FBI, or to commit lies of omission.
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Billy kept saying that too. As do all criminals.
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Pot meet kettle. I'm stating facts as they are known, you're spinning. And using Carville's playbook as well.
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Apparently you don't know much about it.

Starr was appointed by a 3 judge panel to investigate Bill Clinton's role (if any) in the death of Vince Foster and his Whitewater involvement. The 3 judge panel then expanded Starr's role after Clinton perjured himself during his deposition in the unrelated Paula Jones sexual harassment lawsuit. He lied under oath, as the DNA on the blue dress proved. That's what he was impeached for by the House, perjury and obstruction.
So once they utterly failed to substantiate ANYTHING their mandate actually covered, just like with Trump now, they went after process crimes. Oooh, he LIED to the IMPERIAL POLICE!!!

About having sex, no less!

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Old February 12th, 2019, 01:49 AM
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So once they utterly failed to substantiate ANYTHING their mandate actually covered, just like with Trump now, they went after process crimes. Oooh, he LIED to the IMPERIAL POLICE!!!
Uhh, no. The civil suit timeline just happened to correspond to the middle stages of the special investigation. The civil suit was a state matter, not criminal at all and completely unrelated to the federal investigation.

But it doesn't make any difference, under the law a sitting president is subject to the ethics in government act at any time. It's a weird standard we hold our President to, he can't commit any crimes while in office.
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Oooh, he LIED to the IMPERIAL POLICE!!!
He lied in a civil suit deposition. There were actually NO police involved. But he was still under oath, and it is still perjury to lie under oath.
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they utterly failed to substantiate ANYTHING their mandate actually covered
Wrong again. Just like the current investigation, lots of people went to jail. The Clintons were cleared, mostly due to the timely mysterious deaths of certain important subpoenaed witnesses, and the disappearance of the Rose Law Firm records which were in the control of one Hillary Clinton. The fall guys fell and did their time. Again, you're just parroting the Carville spoonfed spin the media put out.
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they went after process crimes.
Crimes, period. White collar, blue collar, violent, non-violent, and even "process." It makes no difference. Perjury is a felony.
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Stupid nonsense from someone who is intelligent enough to know better. Our system is designed to be ADVERSARIAL as a check on executive power. It's not cum-by-ya. We are going to go after any sitting president who commits a crime. And I'm glad we do.
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You'll go after and republican president, at any rate. No democrat will ever be so challenged again.

Look, I have no love for Bubba. But that thing was even more of a sad farce then this current "investigation" is.
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