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Old August 17th, 2017, 12:40 AM
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What a mess. Seems like the police didn't do their job and let the leftist mobs run wild. I was so glad on Tuesday to hear Trump reiterate that the leftist antifa should share the blame for the violence. The subsequent MSM wailing was music to my ears.

Regarding the guy who ran some people over, killing one, there is reason to believe he was reacting out of fear after his car was attacked:

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Lost in all of this is the actual scary thing about it - more and more left leaners and other assorted dumbasses are calling on the government to regulate speech they don't like.... Never thinking that someday it might be YOUR speech getting regulated later on. "Hate Speech" greatly depends on who's setting the criteria for the definition of it, and once you allow government to get into the speech regulating business, all bets are off.

BUT, in answer to your point - if you're afraid you run away, you don't ram your car into a crowd of spectators. There is NO way to justify that at all.
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Not trying to justify, just trying to understand. If your car is surrounded by people then people will get hit if you try to use your car to escape.
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That is certainly a possibility, and a trial will show if it was indeed the case or not. If you feel your life is threatened by an angry mob and you are in your car I can certainly see using it to get to safety. Whether that actually is the case here remains to be seen.

I would like to posit that the Police did their job, exactly how they were ordered t do it. Now I don't want to sound conspiratorial here but let us put forth this scenario. The Nazi idiots got themselves a permit to protest. The Left, without a permit, decides it must be there to "Counter" that protest. This Left, made up of the Democratic Party Brown Shirts [ie The Antifa, World Workers party, International Answer, etc. All groups desirous of using violence to silence the right and move forward the Democratic/Socialist/Liberal/Anarchist agenda, funded by George Soros] wants to openly incite violence to send a message. The Democratic Governor and Mayor are sympathetic to this message BUT, if the Police actively intervene and interpose themselves between the groups the chance for that violent message to go through is diminished. Hence the stand down order, just like the one given during the Berkeley riots, permits the Left to incite violence, have the media blame the Nazis for any retaliation and make the Left look like innocents. Typical Democratic playbook, and too many Republicans and Conservatives are playing right into their hands. Until people realize that the Antifa is not a response to a provocation but IS the provocation things are going to get uglier and out of hand. People will die and the Democrats hope to manipulate that into a return to power in 2018. It is disgusting and too few people care or understand it.
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It's so crazy that Trump gets savaged merely for pointing out that left wing groups are also responsible for violence. Thank God we have a president who has the courage to speak the unpopular truth.
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His wasn't. He came from wayyyyyy over yonder to hit that crowd.
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And that will come out in the trial. Of course what he was running from "way yonder" is known? All I am saying is that in all these explosive situations we need to slow down and wait for all the evidence to manifest itself before we draw conclusions. Maybe he had his hands up? I also just don't trust the MSM from presenting all the evidence nor of presenting evidence in a non-evenhanded manner. Sorry, they lost that trust and even if in this instance they are playing it square I staying skeptical until I am satisfied with the evidence presentation.
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And that will come out in the trial. Of course what he was running from "way yonder" is known? All I am saying is that in all these explosive situations we need to slow down and wait for all the evidence to manifest itself before we draw conclusions. Maybe he had his hands up? I also just don't trust the MSM from presenting all the evidence nor of presenting evidence in a non-evenhanded manner. Sorry, they lost that trust and even if in this instance they are playing it square I staying skeptical until I am satisfied with the evidence presentation.
I agree - I'd really like to see what was happening right before he smashed into the crowd/car. If his goal was to kill as many people as possible he could've significantly upped the body count instead of speeding off.
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With all the caveats about MSM and we don't know and this and that... sure looks like deliberate murder from all we know. And also pathetic - the muzzies in Barcelona just gave an object lesson about how to use cars for terror.

As for Harlotville, it most certainly shows just how far the US has devolved. The police did not do anything to protect the legal protesters against the violent mob. The press/DNC went crazy over Trump rightly assigning blame where it should be. The cuck party ran out in force to tell everyone how much they hate whites and kiss mystery meat ass. And now Bannon gets the boot. The 1st amendment is apparently no longer in effect even as a confessional principle of campaign speech. The US is in bad, bad shape, make no mistake about it.
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The 1st amendment is apparently no longer in effect even as a confessional principle of campaign speech. The US is in bad, bad shape, make no mistake about it.
It isn't. The alt left propaganda machine ALL speech that isn't in LOCK STEP with their agenda, should be SHUT DOWN, and that's exactly what they're doing.

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These shit stains should all be investigated and charged with antitrust violations against the first amendment.

And MM better keep a vigilante eye on his board. With a name like "Redneck Clubhouse," he's bound to get shut down.

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