[moomin]

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Honestly, if this was on Onion, I would think it was over the top. Oy vey, America. Even rhe Soviets would be disgusted.

[Midnight_Marauder]

Originally Posted by moomin

Honestly, if this was on Onion, I would think it was over the top. Oy vey, America. Even rhe Soviets would be disgusted.

If it were the federal government doing this or requiring it, you would have a case for the bolded. This is private action, and in these matters we let the market decide. If these publishers want writers avoiding them in droves, and the books they publish to languish on the shelves, it's their own financial ass to lose.

[moomin]

Ah yes. That fallback. It isn't censorship because private entities, firmly entrenched by cronyism and governmental corporate welfare are doing the nasty work, not the shining, innocent government. That's a world of difference.

In other words - your point in only valid in a free market economy. Which we might, just possibly, count Singapore as, but which certainly does not exist anywhere in the west.

[Midnight_Marauder]

Originally Posted by moomin

Ah yes. That fallback. It isn't censorship because private entities, firmly entrenched by cronyism and governmental corporate welfare are doing the nasty work, not the shining, innocent government. That's a world of difference.

In other words - your point in only valid in a free market economy. Which we might, just possibly, count Singapore as, but which certainly does not exist anywhere in the west.

And yet, when they either go bankrupt or reverse their revenue-killing decision, you'll merely claim they had a change of heart?

[moomin]

I will claim that they told their allies in the state that they would require more hand-outs than the state allies thought this particular narrative push was worth. There is no lack of possible attack vectors in US society, after all - conservatives have ceded the whole apparatus of the state, the courts, the media, the education system and the entertainment entirely to the communists after all. Which is why bakers are forced to bake cakes for gay weddings, but Nordstrom's feel entirely free to drop the Ivanka brand as virtue signaling at any time - and conservatives will defend the latter by talking about free markets and how it isn't _really_ censorship, because it ain't the DHS doing it.

*slow clap*

[Midnight_Marauder]

Originally Posted by moomin

I will claim that they told their allies in the state that they would require more hand-outs than the state allies thought this particular narrative push was worth. There is no lack of possible attack vectors in US society, after all - conservatives have ceded the whole apparatus of the state, the courts, the media, the education system and the entertainment entirely to the communists after all. Which is why bakers are forced to bake cakes for gay weddings, but Nordstrom's feel entirely free to drop the Ivanka brand as virtue signaling at any time - and conservatives will defend the latter by talking about free markets and how it isn't _really_ censorship, because it ain't the DHS doing it.

*slow clap*

But no matter how you try to spin it, soft pedal it or outright back out of it, your comparison between state controlled publishing "Soviet style" like you specified, and private companies in the US deciding on their own to provide "safe reading" for the snowflakes, falls flat.

Get back to me when the US Government mandates any such censorship, and you'll have something by way of comparison.

[moomin]

Yeah, US conservatives have poh-pohed the notion that it's something bad when private companies virtue signal for more progressive system approval and taxpayer money. You're still staunchly defending the rights of free enterprise as you eye the tranny sharing the next stall and reminding yourself that McDonald's is a private company and DOES AS IT PLEASES, IN THE NAME OF HOLY FREE MARKET, so long as it does what the community organizers want.

That is, after all, how you win.

[Midnight_Marauder]

Originally Posted by moomin

You're still staunchly defending the rights of free enterprise

You're the ONLY one in the conversation who said anything about free enterprise, free market, free anything.

You were off point, just accept it. You cannot honestly compare the state controlled Soviet press, publishing and media with the privately held US one.

NOT that the intentions of a great many individuals and corporations who control the US press, publishing and media aren't aligned with Marx - that wouldn't have been inaccurate to say. And I also have little doubt they fervently WISH the government could control it - after all they're ardent haters of the First Amendment.

And..... Not a conservative in sight!

[Midnight_Marauder]

Originally Posted by moomin

as you eye the tranny sharing the next stall and reminding yourself that McDonald's is a private company and DOES AS IT PLEASES, IN THE NAME OF HOLY FREE MARKET, so long as it does what the community organizers want.

That is, after all, how you win.

This is what you do when your hyperbole gets called out - you completely change the subject. You went from comparing the state controlled Soviet press to that of the US, to conflating in the restroom issue. And it's clear you don't even understand that controversy at all. It's not a speech issue and it's not a private property issue - it's about PUBLIC spaces such as schools, airports and government buildings.

IF McDonalds wanted to make their restrooms gender neutral, that's strictly their own, private business decision and they would then have to live with any consequences which might result. Just like the Target superstore chain here, has done. NO state legislature or any other governing body will ever tell them they cannot do that, and haven't. The gender neutral restroom issue is about public buildings, ones that are taxpayer entities. Not private enterprise.

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