When will people understand?

[ricrivera]

Way off topic. The point of the post was Obama isn't a socialist. By either of our standards as to what socialism is. Is he forcing me to pay for other peoples stuff? Yes, but no differently than Bush did, and I don't benefit from it.

GM wanted the government in bed with it. I don't care how much they kicked and screamed on public news about it, I'm sure I could find the amount of money GM spent on lobbying. Oh yeah, google.

$8,805,000 in 2006 according to sourcewatch.org

[Midnight Marauder]

Originally Posted by ricrivera

Way off topic. The point of the post was Obama isn't a socialist. By either of our standards as to what socialism is. Is he forcing me to pay for other peoples stuff? Yes, but no differently than Bush did, and I don't benefit from it.

GM wanted the government in bed with it. I don't care how much they kicked and screamed on public news about it, I'm sure I could find the amount of money GM spent on lobbying. Oh yeah, google.

$8,805,000 in 2006 according to sourcewatch.org

You can assert that all you want. But all evidence so far, from his background, from his books, and out of his mouth, belie your assertion.

[Midnight Marauder]

Originally Posted by ricrivera

$8,805,000 in 2006 according to sourcewatch.org

Not in any way a reliable or credible source.

[ricrivera]

$131,704,170 from 1998-2012 according to opensecrets.org and the Center for Responsive Politics

The Center for Responsive Politics (CRP) is a non-profit, nonpartisan research group based in Washington, D.C. that tracks the effects of money and lobbying on elections and public policy. It maintains a public online database of its information.

But I doubt this is credible either as it just reaffirms my beliefs that Obama is just as crappy of a president as Bush was and for the exact same reasons. Not because he's a